Wikipedia:Visuele tekstverwerker/Feedback/Archief/aug 2015

Categorieën

Laatst een pagina bewust met visual-editor bewerkt. Ging opzich goed, het is even wennen, maar de functionaliteit voor een categorie aanpassen viel me wat tegen. Ik ben hotcat gewend waarbij je een pagina heel makkelijk in een subcat kan plaatsen, en ook in een bovenliggende categorie, maar ik moest nu de categorie verwijderen en de nieuwe toevoegen en op dezelfde plek zetten. Dat werkt toch minder snel, zou deze functionaliteit haalbaar zijn? Daarnaast moet ik zoeken waar het aan te passen, logischer zou zijn de categorieën in vedit-mode gewoon onderaan te laten zien, en dan of een edit-knop om naar de aparte categorie-editor te gaan, of gewoon knoppen ala hotcat daar. Akoopal _overleg 2 aug 2015 00:11 (CEST)

[1]? :) Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 4 aug 2015 15:13 (CEST)

Dat is het juiste ticket. Mbch331 (Overleg) 4 aug 2015 16:18 (CEST)

VisualEditor News #4—2015

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Did you know?

You can add quotations marks before and after a title or phrase with a single click.

Select the relevant text. Find the correct quotations marks in the special character inserter tool (marked as Ω in the toolbar).

Click the button. VisualEditor will add the quotation marks on either side of the text you selected.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices.

Wikimania

The team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing.

Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi.

For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%).

For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%). There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%).

We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. We thank the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative.

Recent improvements

Auto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Wikipedia. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org.

Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software.

Future changes

The team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not.

On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments.

Let's work together

• Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. This feedback page is now using Flow instead of LiquidThreads.
• Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mediawiki.org if you can help.
• If your wiki would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace, you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
• Please file requests for language-appropriate "Vet" and "Cursief" icons for the styling menu in Phabricator.
• The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
• The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, usually on Tuesdays at 12:00 (noon) PDT (19:00 UTC). Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q1 blocker, though. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the main VisualEditor project with the bug.

If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!

—Elitre (WMF), 15 aug 2015 00:28 (CEST)

Plaatsing defaultsort

De visuele tekstverwerker heeft de neiging om de {{DEFAULTSORT}} onderaan de pagina te plaatsen, terwijl de conventies (op NL wiki althans) zeggen dat deze direct boven de categorieën moet komen. (Zie diff #44725711 voor de actie van VE). In de bewerking hierna heb ik het verbeterd en kun je zien wat de conventie is op NL Wiki. Mbch331 (Overleg) 18 aug 2015 11:28 (CEST)

Is dit wellicht VisualEditor: Place page meta-data in expected order? –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 21 aug 2015 11:17 (CEST)

Ja, dat is hem. Mbch331 (Overleg) 21 aug 2015 11:29 (CEST)

[[File]] in plaats van [[Bestand]]

Als je met de visuele editor met 'media toevoegen' een afbeelding invoegt, dan wordt [[File]] gebruikt. Is het niet wenselijker om daar [[Bestand]] of [[Afbeelding]] te gebruiken? Het is onhandig dat de visuele editor niet doet wat gebruikers wordt geleerd in Help:Gebruik van bestanden. Mijn voorstel Visual Editor aanpassen of Help:Gebruik van bestanden aanpassen. In het wild gesignaleerd in deze edit. –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 21 aug 2015 11:17 (CEST)

Dan ga ik wel voor [[Bestand:]]. [[Afbeelding:]] ken ik niet eens. (Persoonlijk heb ik de neiging om zelf [[File:]] te gebruiken. Maar [[Bestand:]] kan ik ook mee leven.) Mbch331 (Overleg) 21 aug 2015 11:26 (CEST)

Oh, Bestand vind ik ook goed. Ik zie dat dat is wat in de handleiding staat, dus is dat het beste. Ik zie het ook meer als een 'nice to have'. Geen M van Moskou. Net als dat defaultsort-dingetje trouwens. –Frank Geerlings (overleg) 21 aug 2015 12:53 (CEST)

Dank je. This is now phab:T110104. Whatamidoing (WMF) (overleg) 24 aug 2015 21:53 (CEST)

Citoid

Hey all. You may have noticed Citoid is gone. No need to worry, this is temporary. We're aware of the issue, caused by an intermittent and hard to diagnose bug, and are currently studying it on this wiki. We appreciate your understanding and apologize for the disruption. I'll keep you posted, of course. Best, Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 26 aug 2015 22:43 (CEST)

It's back now. Elitre (WMF) (overleg) 26 aug 2015 22:50 (CEST)